A week after the discovery of seventeen year old Chelsea King’s body in a shallow grave in Poway, California, the body of fourteen year old Amber Dubois has been found. She was found north of a reservation in Pala, California and her body positively identified via dental records.
Amber Dubois: Body Of Missing Teen Found In Pala, California ( Video )
Amber Dubois, just fourteen ( 14 ) years old, was last seen with an unidentified male on her way to school In February 13, 2009. Her case was not given the close scrutiny that Chelsea King’s disappearance received, perhaps due to the impression she had run away; so say many forum discussions across the internet.
Two people that knew Amber reported seeing her walking near a football field with a tall dark skinned ‘boy’.
That description does not fit John Albert Gardner, the man with so many fingers pointed at him right now.
Amber’s family said it was unlikely she ran away. She had no extra clothes, and she was excited to purchase a lamb she was going to raise through the school’s agricultural program. The $200 check she carried to school that day has never been cashed.
Amber’s parents, Moe Dubois and Carrie McGonigle, continued their search and last summer hired Texas search team with dogs that traced Amber’s scent to the community of Pala, specifically to the Pala library. However, no one there remembered seeing Amber and bloodhounds brought in by the FBI did not detect any trace of Amber Dubois a few months later.
John Albert Gardner, under arrest and charged with the murder of Chelsea King, lived about two miles from where Amber was last seen. It is not known if he played any role in the Amber Dubois case, but we do know he is being questioned.
Investigators have been working to determine if John Albert Gardner III, a 30-year-old registered sex offender who was arrested in Chelsea’s slaying, may have also been connected to Amber’s disappearance
John Gardner served a short five year sentence for lewd and lascivious behavior on a child under fourteen, and there has been extreme outrage due to the light sentencing he received in 2000. Even though a registered offender, and living not too far from Amber, he was not considered a suspect or person of interest worthy of interrogation until recently.
Forum rumor has it that he made a plea deal with the prosecutor in Chelsea King’s case that lead to the discovery of Amber’s body. Other reports say a hiker found her, yet others say an undisclosed tip lead to her remains being recovered.
Regardless, she is ‘home’ now, and will have a dignified funeral. Her parent’s will no longer face the hell of not knowing what happened to Amber, nor will they have the hope that she will be found alive the way Jaycee Dugard was.
Tragedy abounds.
I really do feel that both of these cases will be the much needed catalyst for bringing about change.
Two young, vibrant, brilliant teen girls disappear and are murdered; buried just a short distance from each other—coincidence? My heart says no.
Something must change. It’s my hope the parents’ of Amber Dubois and Chelsea King will make that happen.
Personally, I’d like to see the sex offenders on the registry that really don’t belong there, removed. I’m referring to someone that is treated the same way as a raping pedophile– for merely pinching another workers behind during a drunken office party. Let’s empty those out and put the violent, vicious predators behind bars for life– the FIRST time.
Why should they have the same rights that you and I do? How many more kidnappings, rapes and murders do we have to read about before standing up and declaring no more! Do you need to wait until it’s your child before you get involved in helping to bring about change?
Until we move away from criminal coddling and political correctness, we will continue seeing stories like “Amber Dubois: Body Of Missing Teen Found In Pala, California” every day. Every damn day!
I say enough. Get involved—the time is now!
You can read more about Amber and Chelsea, and learn how to get involved by visiting this forum. It’s one of many, but regularly updated.
Press conference video is below.
We offer our heartfelt sympathy and condolences to Amber Dubois’s family and friends.
Your thoughts?
March 7th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
I see the frustration. I think we havent developed a scientific way to accurately predict the risks associated with a particular predator yet. Ideally, if we could we could dc a much more scientific and fair job of identifying the right people.
I would say lets first try and develop a universal rating scale that works. Possibly much like a credit score as they are pretty predictive as long as you have a job. add up all the violations, the propensity for violence, the family history for psychopathy, etc and arrive at a number. For each two years of good behavior reduce it a little giving a person a way through good efforts to actually rehabiliate themselves towards rejoining society or lowering their registry score.
I would prefer this rather than simply throwing away the key and it would save a lot of money. Many nonviolent offenders do improve and do not repeat, and I would like to think of redemption as a possibility that still exists in our society. Freud said that a quarter of his female patients all said they were abused frankly, many of the cases were not violent per se, but it was abuse and pressure and threats which is bad as well.
I think that at least some level of this is an unfortunate human condition when you just look at raw numbers of people living with and around other people. Cannot some clever psychologists and psychiatrists and forensic experts and sociologists develop a reliable rating scale? Then for example those in the top quatrile, 80-100 would be in preventative detention, those that fell back to 60-80 would get closely supervised release, those 40-60 would get looser release and so forth.
After each two year period of good behavior and an evaluation they could reduce their points by 2, so that over a 10 year period drop from a 90 to a 70, gain relase and the proper supervision. If we find the criteria too tight or too lose we adjust it. Seems to me a panel of experts could do it, and phD candidates could research it.
March 7th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
Brian, that is a pretty good idea. I think psychiatrists need to play a larger part in our criminal justice system. Your idea could work, but, sadly, no one would want to pay for it. I also think that missing people reports need to be treated in a more timely manner. Even if they did run away, they might still be in danger, and in need of help.
March 8th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
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March 9th, 2010 at 8:36 am
There are a few issues we must keep in mind regarding the difference between a predatory sexual offense and other crimes. We have, as of late, no treatment that adequately addresses or changes impulses of power that are sexually charged. This is why offenders usually repeat.
That is the ONLY thing that works for them to relieve stress. Yes, they feel BETTER after they have abused, murdered, raped, etc. That cannot be changed. Most people reoffend but are never caught . . . or they murder victims to keep them from the police. Psychologists and psychiatrists can affirm this. The impulse does not go away, even with years of caring treatment. I have worked in the mental health profession with many individuals who have offended. I worked with them every day. I spent ALOT of time having to report and isolate them to keep children and others safe.
They had to be watched 24 hours a day and monitored incessantly. They were not safe to be out . . and are still roaming the streets. We let them out of jail because they said they were “sorry”. They still, however, would love to get their hands on some kids. This is why I know that sexual predators need not be let out. They are a danger. There needs to be a blanket law . . . one, and done. Of course, we should exclude individuals who fall under the iffy umbrella, such as a 17 year old and a 19 year old in a consentual, loving relationship who were reported by parent. that is not predatory sexual behavior.
I hate to admit this, but mental health professionals often get sucked into siding with their clients and seeing the best in them, which makes them not very good at being objective about risk. Time and time again, I have see counselors and psychiatrists unable to admit to a risk because they have grown fond of their clients. The risk would need to be indentified by the offense.
I don’t believe any of this to be true about most offenses. There are many instances of someone with a drug-related offense or with theft who can and do get better. There is hope fopr them, and they are not a danger to our kids.
Sexual offenders, however, unfortunately are a risk, and will always be. We cannot ignore that any more unless we want more of our children taken.
March 9th, 2010 at 10:01 am
@Joanna: I agree..one and done. They don’t even want therapy, or a ‘cure’—they want our children.
It really needs to stop.
We really need to quit making excuses and start thinking of the children.
April 17th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
Such tragedies happen countless times a day. Where are all our children going? There can’t possibly be that many run aways, most are being taken and sexually assaulted then murdered. The problem is that when a drug addict or dealer gets caught with drugs, they become what we call a “fourth waiver” meaning by being charged with drug offenses they have given up their 4th amendment rights, basically meaning they have no rights. We should impose the same penalty upon molesters, rapist, child, killers, and or murderers. Once they violate the innocents they have given up their right, they have no rights. What in the world ever made a drug user or dealer more important than child molesters, and killers. Why do they deserve such harshness whereas the child pedophiles still have their rights. Personally tracking the pedophiles is way too expensive and doesn’t work. It is more like finding a needle in a haystack after the fact. The only thing it does is points you in the direction to find them. However it does not prevent the crime in itself from happening. We need to protect our children in advance not monitor the perps after the fact\Period. They need to be placed on an island like alcatraz or wherever and be allowed to live in their own environment far away from a society that the can prey upon, and the innocent children that they feed their disqusting lust upon. People, we need to get rid of them. They need to be put somewhere that is secure, somewhere that they can live without being a harm to society. We also need bracelt alerts for our children that a child can activate whenever someone strange or uncomfortable comes near them. This bracelet can have a high pitched alerting shriek tone siren, whatever, that says child abduction, child alert etc, the same way that a car alarm goes off when someone tampers with it. This will scare anyone off and alert others nearby that something is happening to a child and someone should get description, license plates, or any other identifying information the person and the police could apprehend and question them. We need to be proactive not reactive “a ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure” This approach would be more sensible, cost effective and preventative,than in monitoring them for life.